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League: Season: Division: Group: Player:

PlassNavnSpiltSeierUavgjTapScore for-motMarginPoengFra
1jacquik1 8 7012598 - 199860014
2Indymo 8 6022486 - 196152512
3Nknorway 8 6022405 - 193746812Norway
4Abs_79 8 6021956 - 150345312
5malar1603 8 4041949 - 15314188
6QU33N~M3 8 4041614 - 14381768
7che69 8 206842 - 1382-5404
8blue-eyes 2016 8 0170 - 1050-10501
9nashy1234 8 0170 - 1050-10501
1jacquik1+60014
Spilt: 8
Seier: 7
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 1
Score: 2598 - 1998
2Indymo+52512
Spilt: 8
Seier: 6
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 2
Score: 2486 - 1961
3Nknorway+46812
Spilt: 8
Seier: 6
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 2
Score: 2405 - 1937
Fra: Norway
4Abs_79+45312
Spilt: 8
Seier: 6
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 2
Score: 1956 - 1503
5malar1603+4188
Spilt: 8
Seier: 4
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 4
Score: 1949 - 1531
6QU33N~M3+1768
Spilt: 8
Seier: 4
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 4
Score: 1614 - 1438
7che69-5404
Spilt: 8
Seier: 2
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 6
Score: 842 - 1382
8blue-eyes 2016-10501
Spilt: 8
Seier: 0
Uavgjort: 1
Tap: 7
Score: 0 - 1050
9nashy1234-10501
Spilt: 8
Seier: 0
Uavgjort: 1
Tap: 7
Score: 0 - 1050

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LoBotMy compliments to jacquik1 on the outstanding effort in Season 102, Div 8, Group 31! Before the season started, jacquik1 was considered an outsider, someone who could win, but maybe not someone you should put the big money on. Nevertheless, it was nice to watch jacquik1 succeed. 30/04 2016 10:16:30
LoBotWhen I entered the automatic results, the bottom of the table changed. The rule says that you can´t take advantage of not finising a game. So I have nominated che69 and malar1603 to be relegated. The guys in the relegation zone now, nashy1234 and blue-eyes 2016 are nominated to stay in the division. 30/04 2016 10:14:30
LoBotAt the moment, Indymo is leading this. malar1603 and che69 is in the relegation spots. But if the games are not finished, I will set automatic results at deadline, and that will change the order in both ends of the table. jacquik1 may win, nashy1234 and blue-eyes 2016 may go down. Our rules state that you can´t get an advantage by not finishing games, so the table judge may edit promotion and relegation. If you know what happens in the unfinished games (current score, reason for delay), and they matter for promotion or relegation, I recommend posting the information here before deadline. 29/04 2016 00:49:35
IndymoNashy1234 isn´t responding either?? 25/04 2016 17:07:05
tydfilHi all. @mod I hope you don´t my adding a little general info? For league purposes people should only play uns exactly as listed in the table with the exception of capitals/upper case which are not differentiated in WF. No point going through hoops trying to find a variation e.g. gaps/spaces etc.. There are several reasons for the un needing to be found as listed which have been posted on a number of occasions. For those that don´t already know the forum shows posts in all groups (tab at top of page). If you don´t find a un on WF simply post as Indy did and I am sure the WLoH team will address it.

24/04 2016 03:47:46
WLoH ModeratorTo the group - no scores should be entered involving player named below until such time as the username issue has been resolved 24/04 2016 00:36:50
WLoH Moderatorblue-eyes 2016 - your username cannot be found on WF, which is in breach of our rules. This is not your first season, thus you have 24 hours to amend the username. If you fail to do so this username will be deactivated 24/04 2016 00:36:13
IndymoI haven´t, I´ve tried the name with gaps, without, with capitals every which way. No luck. 24/04 2016 00:12:35
NknorwayAnyone managed to contact / find blue-eyes 2016? 23/04 2016 22:45:27
LoBotA tip from the rules: If the opponent resigns, you can either register a 150-0 victory for yourself, or deduct 50 points from the score of your opponent. Don´t register anything if the match never starts. Also, don´t register a temporarily result in a match that is not finished before deadline, but feel free to report such scores in the comment field. 21/04 2016 09:01:13
WLoH Int JudgeGoing forward things are going to change. We need to find a way to make all players more responsible for assuring fairness prevails. The donation rate is miniscule, less than 5 % of members.

My team put in a lot of time and effort for no reward other than the satisfaction of providing a fun league to other people. We do as much as we can to the best of our ability. The service you are currently getting is better than what it is going to become because things are not sustainable in the current format. I do not have the time to do the table judging job every season. If Int Assist was not able to do it last night it would simply be left as is. This will result in some players taking advantage of a more automated system but so be it.

17/04 2016 01:03:35
WLoH Int JudgeOk guys, WLoH Int Assist has made a decision and that will now be respected. He is the fairest, smartest and most appropriate person to be doing this task that I know of. He has explained his reasons and we will not keep repeating them. Unfortunately these issues are often not black and white and it comes down to opinion. The opinion which is worth the most and the one which will be applied in the event all parties don´t agree is that of WLoH Int Assist. End of. 17/04 2016 00:51:14
IndymoOk, just for you all to see this is the email I had Thursday evening

1 Indymo 8points

2 Priyanka.27 6points

3 Purpl€ 4points

4 r . armstrong 0points

5 morla wynter 0points

6 chrissly53 0points

7 066415436 0points

8 icequeen-oly 0points

9 P.P.Ninakins 0points

Can you please detail for me how You altered the scores so that I came 3rd?

16/04 2016 23:36:38
LoBotMan, that is a wicked group! NASHY1234 and QU33N~M3 are all undefeated in WLoH, of course some of the reason is that this is their debut season. NKNORWAY is the one with most experience here, with 27 seasons in the league of honour. That´s a lot of honour. MALAR1603 is the secondmost experienced player in the group, and has played continously since the debut in season 78. ABS_79 is the one who most recently won a group on a decent level, the player won division 8 back in season 96. INDYMO is the most frequent winner in the lot in the last 50 seasons, with a frequency of 1.72 victories per loss. JACQUIK1 is a talented opponent who was number 6 on this level last season. CHE69 is a splendid player who has been number 4 in division 8 in season 97. BLUE-EYES 2016 is a wonderful player who has been number 7 in division 8 in season 101.

JACQUIK1 is one of those rare candles in the dark who donates and keeps this web site running.

The winner gets promoted. We have so many amazeballs players here that it is difficult to pick a winner, but my guess is that Abs_79 ends up as the winner here.

16/04 2016 22:55:35
WLoH Int AssistGood point re the editing of results. It didn´t occur in the group being questioned, but is something I´ll check with the admin team. Re your other point Tydfil, all 3 top players were asked to comment, not just Purpl€. 16/04 2016 22:35:04
tydfilHi can we chill?:) Let me be very clear that I post as a player and have no official role. Having said that, I am very experienced from both sides now; I observe and often have a view which I do not always ´publish´. There is a crucial question that hasn´t been asked re the previous season and the group. Purple was twice asked, via auto post and wisely by wlohasst to provide evidence of opponents´ slow play and efforts made to ensure completion of games. If he/she did that then you have no argument Indymo. If he/she did not provide the evidence as advised it is a different matter.

I have another observation which I would like to preface by saying that I have the utmost respect for the WLoH team and in particular, for the tremendous input from the wlohasst who has made a herculean effort in the ´turn´ of the last few seasons. I know that is a difficult place to be.

I observe that changing results is being used to determine the outcome of tables. Changing results impacts a player´s ranking/rating (for those not aware see rules for the calculation). Rating in the league is the 3rd port of call in the event of a tie on points and spread which does happen - I have been on the wrong end of it:) I took it on the chin and without rancour. I would not have been so accepting if my rating had been affected by ´manufactured´ results. On that occasion I had beaten the winner of the group. A player resigned all games except against the group winner. Had he resigned against him I would have won the group - I shrugged, ´tis life. Head to head is not a decider unless a judgement is made which I would fully accept. Rating/ranking is also used to decide who fills a vacancy in a league higher than the one that the outcome of a group would place them in. May I suggest that, having made a decision re the outcome, a player is simply placed in the div that the WLoH team deems appropriate rather than alter legitimate results?

I salute the WLoH team for their time and effort. May we all enjoy the coming season:)

16/04 2016 22:19:11
WLoH Int AssistPurpl€ beat you 385 to 348, but seems to have bern unable to complete as many games as you because other players stopped playing. Priyanka.27 beat you 469 to 336 but also appears to have been unable to complete as many games due to other players decisions to stop playing. What specifically don´t you understand about that? You´re making the same point over and over again despite me now explaining numerous times why you are being a little self centred. You´re also wrong to suggest that you shouldn´t rush to get games started this season. You should do what you can to get games started and finished. By saying what you´re saying it sounds like you maybe think some players deliberately didn´t start or finish games last season. If so do you have evidence of that? Feel free to continue this discussion if you have specific answers to my specific questions, otherwise kindly get on with this season. 16/04 2016 21:16:05
IndymoI still don´t understand "fairly and squarely" you are telling me that if you finish more games than anyone else and have more points than them you still come third? The world obviously revolves around the players that come 2nd or 3rd! I won´t rush to ask anyone to play this time and then perhaps you will factor me in with a better score? 16/04 2016 21:00:06
WLoH Int AssistIndymo, I have now reviewed your group from last season a third and final time. There were a few players who did not fully participate in that group. Some of the group seemed to be unlucky in that they did not get to play / finish against those players. It looks to me like you just got those games in before people reconsidered playing in the league (eg morla wynter). This happens a lot in div 8 and to me it seems unfair that whoever is lucky enough to get in first gets an advantage over others in their group. So I factored out the poor participants. Given the other results this leaves you in third as you were beaten fairly and squarely by both players above you. On a final note it is disappointing that none of you actually posted specific score / status updates as requested. We can judge groups best when players cooperate rather than complain. 16/04 2016 20:37:30
WLoH Int AssistIndymo, I know where you´re coming from. Let me take another look. Obviously the world doesn´t revolve around you though so I do need to consider what is fair on others too. 16/04 2016 19:19:45
IndymoYour explanation is ridiculous, I legitamately played the games and fought hard to be in first place. Surely if younplaynthe most games it should count for something.

What you are saying is that if you are at the top,of the table with the most points after having played the most games you still don´t win! So i think the object is possibly to play less games and not to finish any then maybe I will be promoted.

If players haven´t played games they shouldn´t receive any points, if games aren´t finished its hard luck, points shouldn´t be give. You are penalising me for trying really hard. I give up!

16/04 2016 18:21:44
WLoH Int AssistHi indymo, I´m sorry you are cross. I´ve just looked back now - you played 5 not 6 and the other player you refer to played 3 not 2.the second placed player was also affected by slow play so when I looked at what seemed fairest (factoring out the slow players) it didn´t seem to make a difference - the second placed player *maybe* had a case for promotion but not you sorry. Do you want to take another look and see if you follow what I´m saying? 16/04 2016 16:34:18
IndymoI am really cross that you altered the figures in my last tournament. I played 6 games and my score was legitamately winning, Purple€ that you put through as the winner played 2 games!

Purple€ complained that the other players were slow! But I managed to play 6 games so this wasn´t the case. Can you please explain how this is fair play?

Isn´t the object of this league to play the games and beat your opponents? Or are you just promoting who you like?

16/04 2016 16:27:39

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Matches

Kamp Resultat
ABS_79
Abs_79 – Indymo295 – 349
Abs_79 – Nknorway341 – 334
Abs_79 – malar1603390 – 359
Abs_79 – jacquik1330 – 461
Abs_79 – che69150 – 0
Abs_79 – blue-eyes 2016150 – 0
Abs_79 – nashy1234150 – 0
Abs_79 – QU33N~M3150 – 0
INDYMO
Indymo – Abs_79349 – 295
Indymo – Nknorway354 – 282
Indymo – malar1603355 – 286
Indymo – jacquik1412 – 418
Indymo – che69397 – 273
Indymo – blue-eyes 2016150 – 0
Indymo – nashy1234150 – 0
Indymo – QU33N~M3319 – 407
NKNORWAY
Nknorway – Abs_79334 – 341
Nknorway – Indymo282 – 354
Nknorway – malar1603368 – 293
Nknorway – jacquik1391 – 377
Nknorway – che69385 – 269
Nknorway – blue-eyes 2016150 – 0
Nknorway – nashy1234150 – 0
Nknorway – QU33N~M3345 – 303
MALAR1603
malar1603 – Abs_79359 – 390
malar1603 – Indymo286 – 355
malar1603 – Nknorway293 – 368
malar1603 – jacquik1411 – 418
malar1603 – che69150 – 0
malar1603 – blue-eyes 2016150 – 0
malar1603 – nashy1234150 – 0
malar1603 – QU33N~M3150 – 0
JACQUIK1
jacquik1 – Abs_79461 – 330
jacquik1 – Indymo418 – 412
jacquik1 – Nknorway377 – 391
jacquik1 – malar1603418 – 411
jacquik1 – che69150 – 0
jacquik1 – blue-eyes 2016150 – 0
jacquik1 – nashy1234150 – 0
jacquik1 – QU33N~M3474 – 454
CHE69
che69 – Abs_790 – 150
che69 – Indymo273 – 397
che69 – Nknorway269 – 385
che69 – malar16030 – 150
che69 – jacquik10 – 150
che69 – blue-eyes 2016150 – 0
che69 – nashy1234150 – 0
che69 – QU33N~M30 – 150
BLUE-EYES 2016
blue-eyes 2016 – Abs_790 – 150
blue-eyes 2016 – Indymo0 – 150
blue-eyes 2016 – Nknorway0 – 150
blue-eyes 2016 – malar16030 – 150
blue-eyes 2016 – jacquik10 – 150
blue-eyes 2016 – che690 – 150
blue-eyes 2016 – nashy12340 – 0
blue-eyes 2016 – QU33N~M30 – 150
NASHY1234
nashy1234 – Abs_790 – 150
nashy1234 – Indymo0 – 150
nashy1234 – Nknorway0 – 150
nashy1234 – malar16030 – 150
nashy1234 – jacquik10 – 150
nashy1234 – che690 – 150
nashy1234 – blue-eyes 20160 – 0
nashy1234 – QU33N~M30 – 150
QU33N~M3
QU33N~M3 – Abs_790 – 150
QU33N~M3 – Indymo407 – 319
QU33N~M3 – Nknorway303 – 345
QU33N~M3 – malar16030 – 150
QU33N~M3 – jacquik1454 – 474
QU33N~M3 – che69150 – 0
QU33N~M3 – blue-eyes 2016150 – 0
QU33N~M3 – nashy1234150 – 0
ABS_79
Abs_79295
Indymo349
Abs_79341
Nknorway334
Abs_79390
malar1603359
Abs_79330
jacquik1461
Abs_79150
che690
Abs_79150
blue-eyes 20160
Abs_79150
nashy12340
Abs_79150
QU33N~M30
INDYMO
Indymo349
Abs_79295
Indymo354
Nknorway282
Indymo355
malar1603286
Indymo412
jacquik1418
Indymo397
che69273
Indymo150
blue-eyes 20160
Indymo150
nashy12340
Indymo319
QU33N~M3407
NKNORWAY
Nknorway334
Abs_79341
Nknorway282
Indymo354
Nknorway368
malar1603293
Nknorway391
jacquik1377
Nknorway385
che69269
Nknorway150
blue-eyes 20160
Nknorway150
nashy12340
Nknorway345
QU33N~M3303
MALAR1603
malar1603359
Abs_79390
malar1603286
Indymo355
malar1603293
Nknorway368
malar1603411
jacquik1418
malar1603150
che690
malar1603150
blue-eyes 20160
malar1603150
nashy12340
malar1603150
QU33N~M30
JACQUIK1
jacquik1461
Abs_79330
jacquik1418
Indymo412
jacquik1377
Nknorway391
jacquik1418
malar1603411
jacquik1150
che690
jacquik1150
blue-eyes 20160
jacquik1150
nashy12340
jacquik1474
QU33N~M3454
CHE69
che690
Abs_79150
che69273
Indymo397
che69269
Nknorway385
che690
malar1603150
che690
jacquik1150
che69150
blue-eyes 20160
che69150
nashy12340
che690
QU33N~M3150
BLUE-EYES 2016
blue-eyes 20160
Abs_79150
blue-eyes 20160
Indymo150
blue-eyes 20160
Nknorway150
blue-eyes 20160
malar1603150
blue-eyes 20160
jacquik1150
blue-eyes 20160
che69150
blue-eyes 20160
nashy12340
blue-eyes 20160
QU33N~M3150
NASHY1234
nashy12340
Abs_79150
nashy12340
Indymo150
nashy12340
Nknorway150
nashy12340
malar1603150
nashy12340
jacquik1150
nashy12340
che69150
nashy12340
blue-eyes 20160
nashy12340
QU33N~M3150
QU33N~M3
QU33N~M30
Abs_79150
QU33N~M3407
Indymo319
QU33N~M3303
Nknorway345
QU33N~M30
malar1603150
QU33N~M3454
jacquik1474
QU33N~M3150
che690
QU33N~M3150
blue-eyes 20160
QU33N~M3150
nashy12340