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League: Season: Division: Group: Player:

PlassNavnSpiltSeierUavgjTapScore for-motMarginPoengFra
1mac1966 8 6023110 - 262248812
2bazzword 8 6023391 - 299739412Leusden - Nederland
3philimus75 8 5033011 - 266434710
4Albertine 8 5032965 - 262234310
5Happy Hunny 8 5033106 - 283027610UK
6Geodon 8 5032893 - 267721610India
7paarnaat 8 3053190 - 318916
8iordo 8 1071210 - 2075-8652Bulgaria
9rhm12345 8 0080 - 1200-12000
1mac1966+48812
Spilt: 8
Seier: 6
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 2
Score: 3110 - 2622
2bazzword+39412
Spilt: 8
Seier: 6
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 2
Score: 3391 - 2997
Fra: Leusden - Nederland
3philimus75+34710
Spilt: 8
Seier: 5
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 3
Score: 3011 - 2664
4Albertine+34310
Spilt: 8
Seier: 5
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 3
Score: 2965 - 2622
5Happy Hunny+27610
Spilt: 8
Seier: 5
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 3
Score: 3106 - 2830
Fra: UK
6Geodon+21610
Spilt: 8
Seier: 5
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 3
Score: 2893 - 2677
Fra: India
7paarnaat+16
Spilt: 8
Seier: 3
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 5
Score: 3190 - 3189
8iordo-8652
Spilt: 8
Seier: 1
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 7
Score: 1210 - 2075
Fra: Bulgaria
9rhm12345-12000
Spilt: 8
Seier: 0
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 8
Score: 0 - 1200

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WLoH Int AssistChecked - leaving as is, refer discussions below. 30/04 2016 12:37:23
LoBotIn Season 102, Div 3, Group 3 , mac1966 has crushed all opposition! I do not believe the big names in the group, such as paarnaat, had expected this. Congratulations, mac1966! 30/04 2016 10:16:32
tydfilI feel in no way devalued. No idea why you or anyone else w0uld think I did - I think a mystery, but no big deal. I have views on the subject of auto results and last I heard I am entitled to express them If that has changed please let me know . I will cease and desist:) Good luck next season.

30/04 2016 08:24:39
WLoH Int AssistThanks again bazzword, and mac1966, it´s great to get your thoughts before season end. That´s not to devalue tydfils comments by the way, but as she says we´re already aware of those (thanks t). The admin team have been discussing this issue since the developer introduced the new end of season process recently which changed the way auto results were handled. I will be interested to see how the process highlights or otherwise handles this group and will intervene if prompted and required. Thanks again all. 30/04 2016 07:17:01
tydfilHi again bazz, one of the reasons there is a judge is that there are some situations that should be looked at on an individual basis - withdrawing halfway through a season may be one of them. There are all sorts of things a judge may decide Purely as an example of that: if a player were thought to be avoiding relegation by asking to be taken out for the season after losses and thus to avoid relegation then the judge could acquiesce to the request but also relegate the player for the following season. I stress that is simply an example and no observation on any particular player. There are a small minority of players who don´t play fair. It is up to us as a community to help counter that. 30/04 2016 06:38:42
WLoH Moderatorbazzword - the automated results will be entered 30/04 2016 06:23:40
BazzwordMac is a great player. No doubt she did not stall. She deserves to play in division 2. But it would be useful to know what should happen if someone does not accept invitations and therefore effective withdraws from competition halfway a season. 30/04 2016 06:07:12
mac1966I am fine with whatever you decide. Thanks. 30/04 2016 03:42:49
tydfilHi bazz and WLoHasst. The latter will know that I have posted on this subject several times (latest in div 4 group 5)so I am not just sticking my nose in:)

The current rules re auto results have been in place for a long time and until recently there have been no more than a few instances where an intervention was deemed appropriate. The rules are clear. A player with an unfinished game is entitled to benefit from an auto result unless they are deemed to be deliberately stalling to avoid delegation/achieve promotion. This has worked very well for nearly 100 seasons. Of late there has been an issue re auto results. There seems to have been a suggestion that players cannot benefit from auto results. That is not correct as the rules stand. If a player is due to benefit then they should submit screenshots of the board and perhaps more importantly, of efforts they have made to get a game completed - polite messages via chat. Players should take responsibility for doing so before the season´s end.

I have looked at this from both sides now and still somehow...I don´t think that a player should be penalised for not being able to start/complete a game against a recalcitrant opponent. I fully appreciate that the latter have all sorts of reasons for not playing.

I would not subscribe to a mathematical formula - it creates artificial results and detracts from the spirit of the league which, I see as play/win/lose. Every game is different; it depends on, at least, a few things: focus at the time, luck of letters and your opponent. That is another reason that I would not be a fan of a mathematical formula.

In this group, though I am speaking generally, there appears to be no reason for inferring stalling.

I have never seen an alternative to the current rules that serves to better deal with unfinished/not started games. Removing a player if no games are played is fine, in my opinion, but removing after several losses lays the system open to abuse. As every game is different, I am not a fan of head to head.

As it stands there are swings and roundabouts - I have been on both and also on the slide:) I wish everyone good luck in the coming season.

30/04 2016 00:45:35
bazzwordYou should make it a rule:

- if someone withdraws or is withdrawn halfway a season, all games against that player fall away from the ranking. (I sort of expected that when I asked my question on 21/4).

- plus: if the judge is notified that someone has not accepted invitations ultimately x days before end of season, then that person is automatically withdrawn.

or:

- if more players end up with the same number of points, but promotion (by Lobot) of the player with the highest surplus is withheld because of an unfinished game, while that game could not be started because the third player has withdrawn, then the result between those two players with the same number of points will be used to decide who gets the promotion.

29/04 2016 21:27:42
WLoH Int AssistHi bazzword, no need to be sorry. I´m very interested to hear yours and mac1966´s thoughts! An approach I´ve used in past seasons has indeed been to see what happens if we factor out the player who withdrew - option 3 or 4 (or seeing what would happen if I gave everyone at least a 150-0 win against the player who withdrew) to level the playing field. 29/04 2016 20:05:38
bazzwordSorry, I misread you: you did not look at Mac´s average, but at Iordo´s average.

Iordo finished only two games: against Paarnaat and myself, with an average loss of 113 points. He was one move and 149 points behind against Happy Hunny when he resigned. So with this reasoning Mac would be promoted.

So your fourth option to update the rules would be to take the average of the games played (whatever their number) by the person who steps out halfway and apply that. I would argue, however, that this is a more complex variant of option 3.

I am really ok with any decision, but would hope that an extra place falls free in division 2 :-)

29/04 2016 19:44:45
bazzwordYou asked for my thoughts: first of all: congratulations to Mac for winning the season!

I already wrote about this: it is strange that this round is decided on the results of someone who withdrew halfway.

But that is part of the game and the rules should be applied. If the rules say that Mac wins the season and I get promoted then so be it.

If the rules don´t give a clear answer you could:

- look at the result between Mac and myself

- argue - as you did - that she would have made her average score surplus on a normal game. But then we have to exclude the game against rhm who was taken out of competition, so 388-150 divided by 6 games (188/6) equals 31. This would only add 31 points to Mac´s surplus.

-take out the results against Iordo, that would lower my surplus by 127.

In option 1 and 2, I would go through, in option 3 Mac goes through.

So if the rules are unclear on this, it is really up to you to decide and update the rules.

Best of luck

29/04 2016 19:33:41
WLoH Int AssistNothing much you can do mac1966. It may make table judging difficult as the automatic win will push you into top spot and bazzword (and lobot, the computer) could argue that you shouldn´t get promoted off the back of an automatic win. But given the situation and other scores against iordo before they stopped playing I reckon you would probably have picked up a good enough win to top the group anyway. I´m interested in both yours and bazzwords thoughts on this, but know what I would do if prompted to intervene based on what I see so far. 29/04 2016 17:09:47
mac1966I have finished all my games except with iordo because that person did not respond to my invitation. What should I do about that? 29/04 2016 13:17:57
tydfilHi geodon. Rhm was excluded a while ago - see posts below which include advice re entering a score. A few other players in the group should also read the posts and act on the advice. 29/04 2016 04:02:43
Geodon786iordo did not respond to multiple invitations. Game with rhm12345 is in progress. 29/04 2016 03:37:11
LoBotThe season is close to its end, and bazzword is ahead. But if the last games are not finished, I will set some automatic results at deadline, and as it looks right now, mac1966 may get the victory. The rules say that if you don´t finish the games, you may lose your promotion, the table judge may edit this group and may give the promotion to bazzword anyway. If you are mac1966 and care about the promotion, I recommend either finish all games, or, if impossible, report current score in this comment field before deadline. 29/04 2016 00:49:39
bazzwordOk thanks,

I was just checking what to do, as this group may well be decided on the results against someone who gave up halfway our round.

But that´s all in the game, of course.

Thanks for the good work.

22/04 2016 19:58:52
WLoH ModeratorBazzword - the scoring is sorted out by LoBot at the end of season as normal. You do not enter scores for any incomplete games or those not commenced 21/04 2016 19:38:34
BazzwordWhat is the correct scoring when Iordo (or someone else) withdraws halfway a round with some games finished, others timing out en yet others not yet started? 21/04 2016 19:28:29
WLoH Int JudgeHi graham-s, we periodically amend such stats. I just did that one but noticed there are a number of others to correct. We will do that as soon as we can. 20/04 2016 02:50:02
graham-sI was just looking up the seemingly impressive all-time #2 high score, logged by rhm12345 in season 101 (754-431)! Given that this player is now excluded from WLoH - presumably due to unfair play - should their all-time high score be removed from the chart as well? 20/04 2016 01:11:14
Happy hunnyPlayer iordo has advised me that they resigned because they have "given up on wloh" At least I know it wasn´t my fault somehow ! 20/04 2016 00:11:29
WLoH Int JudgeThat´s correct Happy hunny, all good :) 19/04 2016 23:51:49
Happy hunnyPlayer iordo resigned from the game when there were 0 tiles left. Score was 489 - 350, so I deducted 50 points from their score. I took screenshots of game to show the game was virtually complete when they resigned, and screenshot of chat - I asked why, but don´t have a reply yet. I´m not used to this happening, can you just confirm that I have dealt with this appropriately please ? 19/04 2016 23:17:19
WLoH ModeratorBazzword - sorted 18/04 2016 02:25:02
BazzwordSorry iordo and parnaat; I entered the result for iordo and me in your box. I could not undo it but only change it to 0-0 for now. 18/04 2016 01:12:13
WLoH Int AssistHi happy hunny, don´t beat yourself up. Very nice of you to post and I´m sure the players from last season will understand. As I recall it looked like lausier was having trouble finishing a few other games anyway. Best wishes for this season and glad the league is a considered a healthy addiction ... my partner sometimes thinks differently but I agree with you ;-) 17/04 2016 18:37:08
Happy hunny SOS..Damsel in Distress. . . I just realised that I failed to take my turn Friday evening because I incorrectly thought it was my opponents turn, Lausier.

:-( I feel such a muppet !! Its never happened before, although I´ve had opponents do it to me, and I know that it can cause bad feeling. I´ve sent Lausier a PM, and thought I´d express this here as well. Due to terminal health conditions i take 22 pills a day, including 160mg of morphine which is the cause of my occasional drowsiness...plus I push myself as hard as possible mon - fri trying to do just basic household chores, then I allow myself to rest at the weekend !

WordFeud / WLOH have become a healthy addiction, and I try to put a lot of effort into all of my games - I just may not have them all finished within a few days.

17/04 2016 16:18:56
WLoH Int JudgeFollowing votes received from recent opponents of rhm12345 in the last 2 seasons regarding the genuineness of play it is necessary to exclude rhm12345 from the league.

All opponents are awarded a 150-0 win and may enter that result.

17/04 2016 08:17:14
LoBotMan, that is a skilful party! GEODON786 is the most experienced player here, with 47 seasons here. IORDO is the secondmost experienced player in the group, and has played continously since the debut in season 79. ALBERTINE is a divine player who has been number 2 in division 3 in season 89. RHM12345 is number 2 on the list of highest score in a single game in WLoH. PHILIMUS75 is the tactically strongest player of the last 50 seasons, the opponents has merely scored the humble average of 295 points per game. HAPPY HUNNY is the player with the highest average score in a season (only counting the last 50 seasons), with 512 points per match (it happened in season 90 in division 6.) PAARNAAT is the one who most recently won a group on a decent level, the player won division 3 back in season 98. BAZZWORD is a wonderful multitalent and does also humiliate opponents in division 4 in Wordfeud Nederlands while playing here. MAC1966 is the player here who most recently went undefeated through an entire season, it happened in 7. division in season 96.

HAPPY HUNNY, GEODON786 and BAZZWORD are not only great players, but beautiful individuals who supports WLoH and helps a silly old bot like me stay alive.

The winner gets promoted, the two last players will be relegated. I feel pretty confident that paarnaat wins the season.

16/04 2016 23:52:42

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Matches

Kamp Resultat
PAARNAAT
paarnaat – iordo477 – 378
paarnaat – rhm12345150 – 0
paarnaat – Happy Hunny480 – 388
paarnaat – Albertine395 – 450
paarnaat – mac1966435 – 466
paarnaat – philimus75401 – 596
paarnaat – Geodon431 – 474
paarnaat – bazzword421 – 437
IORDO
iordo – paarnaat378 – 477
iordo – rhm12345150 – 0
iordo – Happy Hunny300 – 489
iordo – Albertine0 – 150
iordo – mac19660 – 150
iordo – philimus750 – 150
iordo – Geodon0 – 150
iordo – bazzword382 – 509
RHM12345
rhm12345 – paarnaat0 – 150
rhm12345 – iordo0 – 150
rhm12345 – Happy Hunny0 – 150
rhm12345 – Albertine0 – 150
rhm12345 – mac19660 – 150
rhm12345 – philimus750 – 150
rhm12345 – Geodon0 – 150
rhm12345 – bazzword0 – 150
HAPPY HUNNY
Happy Hunny – paarnaat388 – 480
Happy Hunny – iordo489 – 300
Happy Hunny – rhm12345150 – 0
Happy Hunny – Albertine398 – 440
Happy Hunny – mac1966391 – 499
Happy Hunny – philimus75435 – 317
Happy Hunny – Geodon398 – 374
Happy Hunny – bazzword457 – 420
ALBERTINE
Albertine – paarnaat450 – 395
Albertine – iordo150 – 0
Albertine – rhm12345150 – 0
Albertine – Happy Hunny440 – 398
Albertine – mac1966441 – 481
Albertine – philimus75401 – 438
Albertine – Geodon430 – 472
Albertine – bazzword503 – 438
MAC1966
mac1966 – paarnaat466 – 435
mac1966 – iordo150 – 0
mac1966 – rhm12345150 – 0
mac1966 – Happy Hunny499 – 391
mac1966 – Albertine481 – 441
mac1966 – philimus75445 – 491
mac1966 – Geodon514 – 406
mac1966 – bazzword405 – 458
PHILIMUS75
philimus75 – paarnaat596 – 401
philimus75 – iordo150 – 0
philimus75 – rhm12345150 – 0
philimus75 – Happy Hunny317 – 435
philimus75 – Albertine438 – 401
philimus75 – mac1966491 – 445
philimus75 – Geodon447 – 460
philimus75 – bazzword422 – 522
GEODON
Geodon – paarnaat474 – 431
Geodon – iordo150 – 0
Geodon – rhm12345150 – 0
Geodon – Happy Hunny374 – 398
Geodon – Albertine472 – 430
Geodon – mac1966406 – 514
Geodon – philimus75460 – 447
Geodon – bazzword407 – 457
BAZZWORD
bazzword – paarnaat437 – 421
bazzword – iordo509 – 382
bazzword – rhm12345150 – 0
bazzword – Happy Hunny420 – 457
bazzword – Albertine438 – 503
bazzword – mac1966458 – 405
bazzword – philimus75522 – 422
bazzword – Geodon457 – 407
PAARNAAT
paarnaat477
iordo378
paarnaat150
rhm123450
paarnaat480
Happy Hunny388
paarnaat395
Albertine450
paarnaat435
mac1966466
paarnaat401
philimus75596
paarnaat431
Geodon474
paarnaat421
bazzword437
IORDO
iordo378
paarnaat477
iordo150
rhm123450
iordo300
Happy Hunny489
iordo0
Albertine150
iordo0
mac1966150
iordo0
philimus75150
iordo0
Geodon150
iordo382
bazzword509
RHM12345
rhm123450
paarnaat150
rhm123450
iordo150
rhm123450
Happy Hunny150
rhm123450
Albertine150
rhm123450
mac1966150
rhm123450
philimus75150
rhm123450
Geodon150
rhm123450
bazzword150
HAPPY HUNNY
Happy Hunny388
paarnaat480
Happy Hunny489
iordo300
Happy Hunny150
rhm123450
Happy Hunny398
Albertine440
Happy Hunny391
mac1966499
Happy Hunny435
philimus75317
Happy Hunny398
Geodon374
Happy Hunny457
bazzword420
ALBERTINE
Albertine450
paarnaat395
Albertine150
iordo0
Albertine150
rhm123450
Albertine440
Happy Hunny398
Albertine441
mac1966481
Albertine401
philimus75438
Albertine430
Geodon472
Albertine503
bazzword438
MAC1966
mac1966466
paarnaat435
mac1966150
iordo0
mac1966150
rhm123450
mac1966499
Happy Hunny391
mac1966481
Albertine441
mac1966445
philimus75491
mac1966514
Geodon406
mac1966405
bazzword458
PHILIMUS75
philimus75596
paarnaat401
philimus75150
iordo0
philimus75150
rhm123450
philimus75317
Happy Hunny435
philimus75438
Albertine401
philimus75491
mac1966445
philimus75447
Geodon460
philimus75422
bazzword522
GEODON
Geodon474
paarnaat431
Geodon150
iordo0
Geodon150
rhm123450
Geodon374
Happy Hunny398
Geodon472
Albertine430
Geodon406
mac1966514
Geodon460
philimus75447
Geodon407
bazzword457
BAZZWORD
bazzword437
paarnaat421
bazzword509
iordo382
bazzword150
rhm123450
bazzword420
Happy Hunny457
bazzword438
Albertine503
bazzword458
mac1966405
bazzword522
philimus75422
bazzword457
Geodon407