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League: Season: Division: Group: Player:

PlassNavnSpiltSeierUavgjTapScore for-motMarginPoengFra
1Chef Boodro 7 6013196 - 268151512
2Khalliq 7 5022873 - 240546810
3lhynjela 7 4033023 - 28551688
4hingamejig 7 3132228 - 2202267Glasgow
5cliffshood 7 3132365 - 2439-747
6Levernet16 7 3042937 - 28351026
7enne1 7 2142369 - 2744-3755
8dominicriley 7 0162022 - 2852-8301
1Chef Boodro+51512
Spilt: 7
Seier: 6
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 1
Score: 3196 - 2681
2Khalliq+46810
Spilt: 7
Seier: 5
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 2
Score: 2873 - 2405
3lhynjela+1688
Spilt: 7
Seier: 4
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 3
Score: 3023 - 2855
4hingamejig+267
Spilt: 7
Seier: 3
Uavgjort: 1
Tap: 3
Score: 2228 - 2202
Fra: Glasgow
5cliffshood-747
Spilt: 7
Seier: 3
Uavgjort: 1
Tap: 3
Score: 2365 - 2439
6Levernet16+1026
Spilt: 7
Seier: 3
Uavgjort: 0
Tap: 4
Score: 2937 - 2835
7enne1-3755
Spilt: 7
Seier: 2
Uavgjort: 1
Tap: 4
Score: 2369 - 2744
8dominicriley-8301
Spilt: 7
Seier: 0
Uavgjort: 1
Tap: 6
Score: 2022 - 2852

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LoBotMy compliments to Chef Boodro on the outstanding effort in Season 100, Div 6, Group 15! Before the season started, Chef Boodro was considered an outsider, someone who could win, but maybe not someone you should put the big money on. Nevertheless, it was nice to watch Chef Boodro succeed. 2/04 2016 09:51:20
tydfilOk. No big deal Jim. You are most certainly not posting from a un that you are logged in with. I have personally used relegation as a measure when I was the judge. There are legitimate and non excluded players whom warrant attention. 2/04 2016 02:43:32
Jimbob222Hi Tydfil. I´m not posting anonymously?? If you think my opinion carries no weight, fair enough. I disagree. There will be lots of players on here that are previously excluded. Human nature is to try to get back in if booted ;) As far as I can see there are no other measures apart from booting. No point deduction or relegation. Good to consider things. There is clearly a problem with stalling at the close of a season. Many players are becoming frustrated. This could also be Penalised in a like measure. Punishment not execution is the way forward 2/04 2016 02:31:45
tydfilHi jimbob. Just to be clear I have no axe to grind.

You are not logged in; you are posting anonymously - imho that means your post carries no weight.

You underestimate the abilities of the sleuths:)

There are not dozens of excluded players in the league.

There are circumstances where measures other than exclusion are utilised. There are also circumstances where a player should not be inflicted on others - when that happens the player is excluded.

2/04 2016 02:18:44
Jimbob222I didn´t see that WLOH assist. Fair point. Can I offer an alternative to exclusion? We all say things we regret. I´m banned for some ill judged comment toward the Judge (who by the way is tickety boo). Didn´t realise I´m still signed in. Anyhow, here´s my idea. Excluded players can easily get back in. No doubt you have dozens of excluded players currently in the league. You can be completely undetected by adjusting 3 things on sign up. Won´t say what as it´s unfair on you. I haven´t done so btw as I told you I wouldn´t. Anyhow, my idea. Don´t exclude, deduct points or demote. Depending ion gravity of offence, decide whether to deduct points or demote 1 division or more. Maybe even make players sit out for one or more seasons. Players would think twice about a rude comment or bad play. Everyone hates Division 8! In the long term the league would run much better and persistent offenders would give up. Just a thought. Have a nice weekend 1/04 2016 23:06:43
WLoH Int AssistHi jimbob222, having an opinion is fine. Telling the group that 2 of the games played were "entirely boring and tedious" is just plain rude though right? 1/04 2016 19:37:50
Jimbob222Here you can complain about words that are not allowed, talk about the games, the rules, or basically whatever you want.

WLOH assist, please note above comments on the Forum page. Stop keep threatening exclusion on players that have a view. It´s both childish and annoying

1/04 2016 19:23:57
WLoH Int AssistOk, levernet. I´ll take that as a "no" and hence give you a final warning that if you make accusatory or rude comments towards other players in the forum again, or in any other way break our community´s very reasonable rules, then you will be removed from the league. Please try to play nicely with others. 1/04 2016 18:33:06
Levernet16After yr penultimate comments it´s sensible to say nothing more.Best LV 1/04 2016 18:08:46
WLoH Int AssistLevernet. Do you have evidence of deliberate stalling or not? 1/04 2016 17:50:51
Levernet16I said that I wouldn´t be posting any more, but need to respond to your comment. I take your points and confirm that I did indeed provide my humble apologies to Tydfil, if any offence was given.The final comment that I would like to make is that I have been offended by some photographs of players that have been ´presented´ when seeking friendly games (and understand that I am not the only one), well frankly they were shocking actually. I don´t understand how the system permits such material to be displayed. This is the last post and just to say that I do appreciate all the altruistic efforts of the team. If you decide not to kick me off, will see how it goes for a few weeks and then contribute if still here. It´s a relative drop in the bucket. Best Regards LV 1/04 2016 17:22:51
WLoH Int AssistHi levernet. If you have evidence that a player is deliberately stalling then we would like to see it (wlohint@gmail.com). Do you have evidence? Regarding blocking players, Tydfil has given you some good advice. Usually it is polite to offer thanks when someone tries to help you.

This isn´t the first season Ive had my attention drawn to your posts. Your attitude on the forum needs to change if you want to continue. Feedback is great but at present your posts are ill considered and in cases quite rude. You fail to understand that the league is a community - run by players for players. You are not a customer of tydfils, the admin team or any other player. The website was created by a single developer, with an interest in WF, in their spare time. You could be considered a customer of that developer if you donated. Did you?

1/04 2016 11:45:17
Levernet16...that´s interesting Merthyr ;-)..Adios 1/04 2016 05:22:11
tydfilNot an issue as far as I´m concerned. Btw I am just a ´customer´ :) 1/04 2016 05:10:59
Levernet16Let´s close this out. Firstly I Said I didn´t intend to post any more, with a harmless quote, which you wanted to discuss. That´s closed. I realise that the customer isn´t always right, but all you need to glean from this little piece of banter is that we are customers and sometimes we are right. Best Regards LV 1/04 2016 04:58:50
tydfilHi again levernet. I didn´t quote Sancho. I repeat my question - why can´t you play in this league in the same way most people are able to do?

Btw it would be very difficult to embarrass me:)) You clearly want an argument and I am probably your best target because I will never take personal offence. You are making a fuss over absolutely nothing.

1/04 2016 04:53:24
Levernet16Don´t know you well enough to know whether you behave or not and don´t intend to embarrass you with Sancho´s quote. Best LV 1/04 2016 04:39:14
tydfilLol I never took offence. No further study required. I know how to behave:) 1/04 2016 04:32:26
Levernet16Further study recommended. 1/04 2016 04:28:17
tydfilDidn´t exist as giants:) 1/04 2016 04:24:20
Levernet16Humble apologies if I have given offence. I just didn´t want a wonderful book to be rewritten. Sorry you didn´t appreciate the timorous jousting analogy. Have already advised you that it´s pointless to post further comments. Best LV 1/04 2016 04:23:53
tydfilObviously you have posted with no respect at all. It is of no consequence to me. I know Cervantes though I find boring. Tilt away and no doubt you will find a Sancho to follow you. I don´t know what your problem is Levernet - why can´t you just play nicely like the majority of players in the league do? 1/04 2016 04:13:09
Levernet16Aha..with all respect you don´t appear to know your Cervantes ;-).. 1/04 2016 03:55:13
tydfilHi again levernet. You may recall that Don Quixote tilted at windmills that didn´t exist:) 1/04 2016 03:44:54
Levernet16Sic.. And not try and buck the system.. 1/04 2016 03:39:52
Levernet16..ok I think where I have got with the interaction on these exchanges is that the I am tilting at windmills, so will cease further comment and buck the system ;-) Best LV 1/04 2016 03:38:54
tydfil@levernet no I do not - you only do yourself a disservice. If you have received such a message then send a screenshot to the judge. 1/04 2016 03:30:07
Levernet16If an individual is telling me that they are deliberately playing slowly for tactical advantage, then don´t you think I am within my rights to block a player who appears to be acting in an unethical manner? 1/04 2016 03:17:59
Levernet16If an individual is telling me that they are deliberately playing slowly for tactical advantage, then don´t you think I am within my rights to block a player who appears to be acting in an unethical manner? 1/04 2016 03:17:56
tydfilHi levernet. You have played in WLoH for a comparatively short time but have already offered advice on changes that you believe should be made. I am sure views are always welcome.

You have decided to block a player - I can assure you quite categorically that your decision lacks merit/benefit. You are playing in a league and need to do that within the same parameters as everybody else.

1/04 2016 03:15:05
Levernet16Thanks for your feedback, I will block one user for the future, regardless of whether the game finishes or not. That´s the best solution. Best LV 1/04 2016 02:25:11
LoBotAt the moment, dominicriley and enne1 is in the relegation spots. But in the games that are not finished, I will set some automatic results at deadline, and that may cause cliffshood and dominicriley to go down. The rules state that you cannot get an advantage simply by not finishing your games, so the table judge may edit this group with respect to relegation. If you have intel on unfinished games (current score, reason for delay) that the judge ought to know, I recommend posting the information here before deadline. 1/04 2016 01:49:10
tydfilWe haven´t reached the day of fools yet so I am presuming your post is serious, Levernet. More fool me if I am wrong:)I have no idea whom your advisor in the group is and have no wish to know. The only way that slow play/not finishing is tactical is if an opponent would gain promotion/avoid relegation via an auto win. That is not the case in either of your outstanding games.

General advice - if you believe a a game is not going to finish before the deadline for a season and that someone will benefit/disbenefit from not finishing then you should start taking shots of the time lag, board and polite messages you have sent to encourage a conclusion. I would like to stress that I am referring to situations of when games are at risk of not finishing - not what some people consider slow play:)

31/03 2016 03:24:51
Levernet16Well given the last two matches my best shot to jolly along, but totally busy now and it´s only going to be possible to try and complete them on APRIL FOOLS DAY ;-) 30/03 2016 23:38:42
Levernet164 cracking games in this Group and 2 entirely boring and tedious ones. 30/03 2016 23:34:52
Levernet16Lebot, there must be a question mark about the tactics of slow play. Would other players in the Group comment on the merits of playing slowly. Ie I fail to understand why it is tactically advantageous as one Group member claimed it to be? Best LV 30/03 2016 22:26:18
Levernet16Dear Lebot, it seems unethical if players are making at one move per day. This is because the only way to complete games is for a series of quick plays on the last two days. Ie my tactic now is to continue to play these games at one move per day, then I should be declared the Victor when time runs out. Best LV 30/03 2016 22:21:56
LoBotPeople, this is an amazing party! KHALLIQ is the greatest veteran here, with 54 seasons in this tournament. NEEDSANEWUSERNAME is the secondmost experienced player in the group, and has played continously since the debut in season 78. CLIFFSHOOD is the player here who has won most groups, with a total of 7 victories. DOMINICRILEY is a great player who has been number 5 in division 6 in season 99. LHYNJELA is a divine opponent who was number 4 on this level last season. ENNE1 is the tactically strongest player of the last 50 seasons, the opponents has merely scored the humble average of 207 points per game. LEVERNET16 is the player with the highest average score in a season (only counting the last 50 seasons), with 473 points per match (it happened in season 99 in division 7.) CHEF BOODRO is the player here who most recently went undefeated through an entire season, it happened in 7. division in season 99.

The winner gets promoted, the two last players will be relegated. If I were to guess, I would say that Khalliq wins this group.

19/03 2016 22:40:52

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Matches

Kamp Resultat
KHALLIQ
Khalliq – hingamejig150 – 0
Khalliq – lhynjela469 – 442
Khalliq – cliffshood403 – 396
Khalliq – Chef Boodro390 – 447
Khalliq – Levernet16407 – 427
Khalliq – dominicriley504 – 341
Khalliq – enne1550 – 352
HINGAMEJIG
hingamejig – Khalliq0 – 150
hingamejig – lhynjela372 – 404
hingamejig – cliffshood467 – 377
hingamejig – Chef Boodro492 – 501
hingamejig – Levernet16444 – 381
hingamejig – dominicriley453 – 389
hingamejig – enne10 – 0
LHYNJELA
lhynjela – Khalliq442 – 469
lhynjela – hingamejig404 – 372
lhynjela – cliffshood452 – 366
lhynjela – Chef Boodro397 – 489
lhynjela – Levernet16365 – 451
lhynjela – dominicriley516 – 315
lhynjela – enne1447 – 393
CLIFFSHOOD
cliffshood – Khalliq396 – 403
cliffshood – hingamejig377 – 467
cliffshood – lhynjela366 – 452
cliffshood – Chef Boodro382 – 381
cliffshood – Levernet16372 – 367
cliffshood – dominicriley0 – 0
cliffshood – enne1472 – 369
CHEF BOODRO
Chef Boodro – Khalliq447 – 390
Chef Boodro – hingamejig501 – 492
Chef Boodro – lhynjela489 – 397
Chef Boodro – cliffshood381 – 382
Chef Boodro – Levernet16439 – 428
Chef Boodro – dominicriley515 – 229
Chef Boodro – enne1424 – 363
LEVERNET16
Levernet16 – Khalliq427 – 407
Levernet16 – hingamejig381 – 444
Levernet16 – lhynjela451 – 365
Levernet16 – cliffshood367 – 372
Levernet16 – Chef Boodro428 – 439
Levernet16 – dominicriley431 – 349
Levernet16 – enne1452 – 459
DOMINICRILEY
dominicriley – Khalliq341 – 504
dominicriley – hingamejig389 – 453
dominicriley – lhynjela315 – 516
dominicriley – cliffshood0 – 0
dominicriley – Chef Boodro229 – 515
dominicriley – Levernet16349 – 431
dominicriley – enne1399 – 433
ENNE1
enne1 – Khalliq352 – 550
enne1 – hingamejig0 – 0
enne1 – lhynjela393 – 447
enne1 – cliffshood369 – 472
enne1 – Chef Boodro363 – 424
enne1 – Levernet16459 – 452
enne1 – dominicriley433 – 399
KHALLIQ
Khalliq150
hingamejig0
Khalliq469
lhynjela442
Khalliq403
cliffshood396
Khalliq390
Chef Boodro447
Khalliq407
Levernet16427
Khalliq504
dominicriley341
Khalliq550
enne1352
HINGAMEJIG
hingamejig0
Khalliq150
hingamejig372
lhynjela404
hingamejig467
cliffshood377
hingamejig492
Chef Boodro501
hingamejig444
Levernet16381
hingamejig453
dominicriley389
hingamejig0
enne10
LHYNJELA
lhynjela442
Khalliq469
lhynjela404
hingamejig372
lhynjela452
cliffshood366
lhynjela397
Chef Boodro489
lhynjela365
Levernet16451
lhynjela516
dominicriley315
lhynjela447
enne1393
CLIFFSHOOD
cliffshood396
Khalliq403
cliffshood377
hingamejig467
cliffshood366
lhynjela452
cliffshood382
Chef Boodro381
cliffshood372
Levernet16367
cliffshood0
dominicriley0
cliffshood472
enne1369
CHEF BOODRO
Chef Boodro447
Khalliq390
Chef Boodro501
hingamejig492
Chef Boodro489
lhynjela397
Chef Boodro381
cliffshood382
Chef Boodro439
Levernet16428
Chef Boodro515
dominicriley229
Chef Boodro424
enne1363
LEVERNET16
Levernet16427
Khalliq407
Levernet16381
hingamejig444
Levernet16451
lhynjela365
Levernet16367
cliffshood372
Levernet16428
Chef Boodro439
Levernet16431
dominicriley349
Levernet16452
enne1459
DOMINICRILEY
dominicriley341
Khalliq504
dominicriley389
hingamejig453
dominicriley315
lhynjela516
dominicriley0
cliffshood0
dominicriley229
Chef Boodro515
dominicriley349
Levernet16431
dominicriley399
enne1433
ENNE1
enne1352
Khalliq550
enne10
hingamejig0
enne1393
lhynjela447
enne1369
cliffshood472
enne1363
Chef Boodro424
enne1459
Levernet16452
enne1433
dominicriley399